Hi everyone,
I am considering buying a used Sondek LP12, with cirkus bearing, Lingo 2, ittok 2 arm, and Trampolin, plus a new dynavector cartridge 17d3.
I was using Quadraspire Sunoko Vent, with 7 shelves. Recently I took two shelves off for inspection. I am also using Quadraspire QX7 'skeet' Floor protectors. Anyway there are two ways of placing the LP12:
(1) Scenario 1: around 72cm high
There will be four shelves, with a heavy Accuphase DG58 (22kg) at the bottom, a blu-ray-CD player combo (light unit), a Prism Orpheus mixer, and then the LP12 on the top shelf.
If I need a dedicated shelf for Lingo2, the rack will be higher.
(2) Scenario 2: around 120 to 130 cm (can't remember, since I took two shelves off for inspection)
It is scenario 1 plus two shelves, with a CDP and an empty shelf at the bottom (or let the Accuphase DG58 occupying the bottom).
But the more I read about posts in this forum, the more I become perplexed if I could play LP12 well with my rack.
First, many suggest using a rack without any component, solely dedicated to LP12. Perhaps one with 2 shelves, with these two placed apart with maximum distance. The top, LP12, and the bottom, nothing, or just a Lingo 2. In this case, Quadraspire Sunoko Vent (not wall shelf) could be used, directly sitting on the 'floor'.
So it seems that general consensuses are:
1) The lower your rack, the better (down to a level comfortable for operation, of course).
2) No other components in the rack other than LP12 is the best. LP12 needs a dedicated rack with ideally nothing else in the rack for good performance. Violating this rule, you get half or even less than half of the performance.
3) For the same token, wall shelf is the best option.
I however also noted sometimes certain assumptions are being discussed behind the above approaches, but I am not sure if I am correct. Are the approaches BEST to non-concrete, suspended wooden floor?
I am living in an apartment with concrete floor. I have installed some - how to say it - PVC pseduo-wood floor? They are however glued directly to the concrete floor so there is no space between them.
So are anyone playing LP12 on CONCRETE floor, using Quadrapsire Sunoko Vent (or similar rack) and QX7 protector, with other components (even heavy ones) housed in the same rack and multi-shelves set up - but with good results? Adding an isolation platform between LP12 and the top shelf?
I know it's impossible to find a user with the exact setup like mine. But I think some may be using LP12 on concrete floor, with Q rack (EVO or Bamboo) with several shelves. Love to hear any opinion.
My place is small so I'd really like to house different components in a multi-shelved Quadrapsire Sunoko Vent rack ... but if it's DOOMED to have bad sound for LP12, then I may need to reconsider ...
Thanks in advance
I am considering buying a used Sondek LP12, with cirkus bearing, Lingo 2, ittok 2 arm, and Trampolin, plus a new dynavector cartridge 17d3.
I was using Quadraspire Sunoko Vent, with 7 shelves. Recently I took two shelves off for inspection. I am also using Quadraspire QX7 'skeet' Floor protectors. Anyway there are two ways of placing the LP12:
(1) Scenario 1: around 72cm high
There will be four shelves, with a heavy Accuphase DG58 (22kg) at the bottom, a blu-ray-CD player combo (light unit), a Prism Orpheus mixer, and then the LP12 on the top shelf.
If I need a dedicated shelf for Lingo2, the rack will be higher.
(2) Scenario 2: around 120 to 130 cm (can't remember, since I took two shelves off for inspection)
It is scenario 1 plus two shelves, with a CDP and an empty shelf at the bottom (or let the Accuphase DG58 occupying the bottom).
But the more I read about posts in this forum, the more I become perplexed if I could play LP12 well with my rack.
First, many suggest using a rack without any component, solely dedicated to LP12. Perhaps one with 2 shelves, with these two placed apart with maximum distance. The top, LP12, and the bottom, nothing, or just a Lingo 2. In this case, Quadraspire Sunoko Vent (not wall shelf) could be used, directly sitting on the 'floor'.
So it seems that general consensuses are:
1) The lower your rack, the better (down to a level comfortable for operation, of course).
2) No other components in the rack other than LP12 is the best. LP12 needs a dedicated rack with ideally nothing else in the rack for good performance. Violating this rule, you get half or even less than half of the performance.
3) For the same token, wall shelf is the best option.
I however also noted sometimes certain assumptions are being discussed behind the above approaches, but I am not sure if I am correct. Are the approaches BEST to non-concrete, suspended wooden floor?
I am living in an apartment with concrete floor. I have installed some - how to say it - PVC pseduo-wood floor? They are however glued directly to the concrete floor so there is no space between them.
So are anyone playing LP12 on CONCRETE floor, using Quadrapsire Sunoko Vent (or similar rack) and QX7 protector, with other components (even heavy ones) housed in the same rack and multi-shelves set up - but with good results? Adding an isolation platform between LP12 and the top shelf?
I know it's impossible to find a user with the exact setup like mine. But I think some may be using LP12 on concrete floor, with Q rack (EVO or Bamboo) with several shelves. Love to hear any opinion.
My place is small so I'd really like to house different components in a multi-shelved Quadrapsire Sunoko Vent rack ... but if it's DOOMED to have bad sound for LP12, then I may need to reconsider ...
Thanks in advance